tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11930409.post561149354262193286..comments2023-12-18T22:41:47.972-05:00Comments on Red Sox Reality Check: Santana and The Winners CurseRon Sen, MD, FCCPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02421945373895318335noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11930409.post-8898220525580877292007-12-02T00:57:00.000-05:002007-12-02T00:57:00.000-05:00Anonymous at 7:27 AM:"Crisp, Lester, Lowrie, Bowde...Anonymous at 7:27 AM:<BR/><BR/>"Crisp, Lester, Lowrie, Bowden for Johan Santana"<BR/><BR/>Delusional may be the right term for you if you truly think Santana is coming here for NO less then either Buchholz and/or Ellsbury.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11930409.post-82798450683617083672007-12-01T09:43:00.000-05:002007-12-01T09:43:00.000-05:00Silly question but.... "If it's not broke...Why me...Silly question but.... "If it's not broke...Why mess with it?"<BR/>There is enough talent in the farm teams to make any MLB team wish it were their Christmas. Obviously you have seen that this year!!<BR/>We are Red Sox..We are a team and strive to be the best but not at the cost of becoming like the Yankees!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11930409.post-19293530827005531242007-11-30T07:27:00.000-05:002007-11-30T07:27:00.000-05:00Trading for pitching gets you no-where???Pavano an...Trading for pitching gets you no-where???<BR/><BR/>Pavano and PTBNL for Pedro Martinez<BR/><BR/>Casey Fossum, Brandon Lyon, + 2 Minor Leaguers for Curt Schilling<BR/><BR/>Annibal Sanchez, Hanley Ramirez, + 1 for Beckett + Lowell.<BR/><BR/>Crisp, Lester, Lowrie, Bowden for Johan Santana<BR/><BR/>What is the difference?Fried Cheesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13070191071910612765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11930409.post-8710458351467327392007-11-30T00:55:00.000-05:002007-11-30T00:55:00.000-05:00Anonymous 2:55.Obviously a huge douche bag. Never...Anonymous 2:55.<BR/>Obviously a huge douche bag. Never mind 'your'. "Buying proven major leaguers will get you nowhere." WTF do you call Curt Schilling? Or Pedro Martinez, Manny Ramirez, Johnny Damon, Keith Foulke, etc.? Without them your ass probably wouldn't know a baseball from a skidmark. The Yankees have been giving extra cream to dudes way past their prime. Santana is 28. Jackass. Scouting young talent is essential to the development of teams, but that cheap talent alone does not in and of itself make champions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11930409.post-73856956355463235982007-11-29T17:00:00.000-05:002007-11-29T17:00:00.000-05:00Anyone who is going to call me out and not leave t...Anyone who is going to call me out and not leave there name has no Balls. To anonymous at 2:55pm you are an No Balls idiot. How can you justify holding onto all of your prospects when you can get a 2x cy young winner. What happens when you have to resign Papelbon, Youk, Pedroia, Delcarmen, Lester, Buckholz, Elsbury all within three years of each other. You think you can afford that. Lets be honest, If you don't make the deal you are one of the top three in the AL next year. Make the deal you are The top team in MLB and if everyone stays health and produces a shoe in for the World Series. I stand by my statements and at least I have the balls to leave my name attached to my comments.Jason Price, MS, CSCS, ATC, CPT, USAW Club Coachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17068496518689319618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11930409.post-86521292514682565552007-11-29T16:48:00.000-05:002007-11-29T16:48:00.000-05:00NeverNude- YOUR an idiot too, we were clearly the ...NeverNude- YOUR an idiot too, we were clearly the best team in baseball this year and we're bringing everybody back. Forget Santana! And don't give me that "your the same bunch" BS. Don't take my opinion on one trade and think you know me. It sounds like you are the same bunch of fans that wanted to get A-Rod in 2003.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11930409.post-63215594020998344322007-11-29T16:02:00.000-05:002007-11-29T16:02:00.000-05:00You guys are insane. I'm with Jason. You are the...You guys are insane. I'm with Jason. You are the same bunch that wouldn't trade Pedro Martinez for our 3 prized pitches (See Pavano, Okha and Kim). I heard Brian Rose is going to be the next Roger Clemens, let's hang onto him. It is ridiculous to think that Lester, Masterson, OR Bowden will amount to be anywhere as close to the pitcher Santana is and will continue to be for 5 years. We retain our 3 best prospects/little MLB Experience (Bucholtz, Ellsbury, Pedroia). This is a trade that has to be made.NeverNudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01850950190217647852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11930409.post-26947522962860216632007-11-29T15:48:00.000-05:002007-11-29T15:48:00.000-05:00y deal doesn't include Ellsbury, I'm good with it....y deal doesn't include Ellsbury, I'm good with it.<BR/>If our 2008 lineup was Beckett, Santana, Schilling, Matsusaka, and ??<BR/>, you could practically start printing the WS tickets now.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11114861132724079142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11930409.post-44029299065853065052007-11-29T15:17:00.000-05:002007-11-29T15:17:00.000-05:00barry zito/eric gagne....but santana is more conne...barry zito/eric gagne....but santana is more connected to the sox schilling,big papi,manny all friends..this one is a tough one and i am wary of giving up young talent...the last few years we gave up a lot for beckett/lowell although that worked out...this one has me at least on a gut level kind of nervous...its all rumors,at least its not buckholtz/lester/ellsbury...i still think we signed schilling this year because i think the sox thought santana would be a free agent next year...i feel this is a deal that was on the plate just not this year.. secondly that means when becketts contract is up we will have to ante up especially if we give santana what he wants...and beckett has proved himself to the sox....hard callAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11930409.post-71106798563217986452007-11-29T12:59:00.000-05:002007-11-29T12:59:00.000-05:00I think part of the Red Sox reason for acquiring S...I think part of the Red Sox reason for acquiring Santana is too keep him out of pinstripes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11930409.post-79624117551110646002007-11-29T12:30:00.000-05:002007-11-29T12:30:00.000-05:00You guys are nuts. Prospects are just that Prospe...You guys are nuts. Prospects are just that Prospects. If you can get a 2 time Cy young winner and keep him from going to your rival you do it. Were talking bout prospects! Not proven major league talent! But, Prospects! From your minor league system if you can produce one or two major league viable players every 3-4 years that is great when you are a big market team. The sox have produced several of late. If it costs you two who played in the majors last year, coco and one not major league ready prospect you pull the trigger. Its the biggest NO brainer in the history of earth!!Jason Price, MS, CSCS, ATC, CPT, USAW Club Coachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17068496518689319618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11930409.post-5997259457736632892007-11-29T11:19:00.000-05:002007-11-29T11:19:00.000-05:00Couldn't agree more. We're finally in the enviabl...Couldn't agree more. We're finally in the enviable position that every team in every sport wishes to be in - loaded with young cheap talent and just waiting to watch it blossom, bringing great chemistry with it. Please don't get Santana. Plus, everyone I know really likes these kids as people and players.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11930409.post-48984576216586816772007-11-29T10:54:00.000-05:002007-11-29T10:54:00.000-05:00Right on.Getting Santana entails risk (what happen...Right on.<BR/><BR/>Getting Santana entails risk (what happens if he goes Zito/gets badly injured?). <BR/><BR/>Not getting Santana entails risk (what if our young guys never amount to much & Santana wins 25 for NYY?).<BR/><BR/>I don't know the right answer. My gut tells me I'd rather see the Sox rely on the home-grown young guys, but there's a reason why my gut isn't the Red Sox GM!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com